Post details: Thank you Shira - the self-proclaimed Holy Spirits prophet!


Permalink 11:40:15 am, Categories: By Trent, 185 words   English (US)

Thank you Shira - the self-proclaimed Holy Spirits prophet!

Hey brother,

We are inviting you to be the president of the " He man Lawhead Haters Club..." Im sure girls rnt allowed but Ill be ur secretary.....

The leader of this wolf pack must be skilled in mocking, humiliation, stealth, blame shifting and a dead eye killer shot at stone throwing. One must also know the scriptures well enuff to keep the club befuddled and on ur side when you get busted... You also have to be a big cry baby and able to turn on the tear ducts if you get caught by the Holy Spirits prophet who sheds light on ur antics.

Finally, you must be very good at casting naked lawheads to the pack for a good laugh at their humiliation. After reading your site babe....Im sure your the man....

Much love and kissezz,


This came from Shira (aka "princess Aman" or "princess_isa_of_spicez" or "Princess Isa" or "Holy Spirits prophet") as a stand-alone email. It is a great way for me to learn what it is like when somebody can write without mocking anybody, nor throwing stones.

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Comment from: Pam [Member]
The stones can be handled, it's that 'love and kissez' stuff that you have to watch out for.

Your shoes are dusty, sweetie.

Permalink 06/08/06 @ 10:54
Comment from: Sumner Koch [Visitor]
"The Greek Word Aion--Aionios Translated Everlasting--Eternal in the Holy Bible" by Dr. John Wesley Hanson
Description: Surely, the Greek word aion and its adjective aionios have been mistranslated in most Bible translations leading to grave misrepresentations regarding the length of punishment and Hell in the Bible.

Books Perpetrating the Diabolical Teaching of Hell:

Hell plus how to avoid Hell
Hell? Yes!
Hell Under Fire
Hell's Best Kept Secret
Universalism and the Doctrine of Hell
Hell: The Logic of Damnation
How can a God of Love Send People to Hell?
Crucial Questions About Hell
The Other Side of the Good News
Heaven and Hell
Hell on Trial

Time and Eternity
An excellent short book by G. T. Stevens examining the Greek, Hebrew, Latin words behind our English concepts of time and eternity. It traces how Hebrew words denoting time were changed to the idea of eternity through Jerome's Latin Vulgate
Permalink 06/09/06 @ 15:26
Comment from: Sumner Koch [Visitor]
I. Corinthians.15
III. June, 2006 — Sound Words carry their own meaning with them! They mean what they say and mean what they mean and not what we might think they mean.
The concept of subjection is something that is somewhat foreign to Western thought processes, yet it is understood without difficulty by other peoples around the world. The apostle Paul uses subjection in the proper manner in several verses, but particularly in 1 Corinthians chapter 15.

The verb “to subject” in Greek (hupostasso) means to “set under.” The usage and meaning usually implies a voluntary subjection. In the book of Romans Paul speaks about the subjection (or lack of it) by the carnal mind. Paul explains about your carnal mind and mine:
“Because the carnal fleshly mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the (flesh carnal) cannot please God.”
• Romans 8:7–8
This “enmity against God” Paul talks about occurs because, as Paul explains later, “the creature [the creation] was made subject to vanity” (Romans 8:20). Paul notes that not just humanity, but all of creation is so subject. This even involves “spiritual” people. Even the prophets were “subject” to passions and emotions as we are (James 5:17).

The King James Version expresses the matter of subjection of all creation to God several times in 6 important verses:
“But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end [Greek: “the consummation”], when he shall have delivered up [giving up] the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule [sovereignty] and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he has put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. For he has put [subjects] all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put [subject] under him [quoting Psalm 8:6], it is manifest [made evident] that he is excepted, which did put [subjects] all things under him. And when all things shall be subdued [subjected] unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject [subjected] unto him that put [subjects] all things under him, that God may be all in all.”
• 1 Corinthians 15:23–28
The subjection is an ongoing process, in fact it is progressing and continuing at the present moment.
“Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.”
• 1 Peter 3:22
Let me present the consistent rendering of the Concordant Version ( It makes clear this passage in 1 Corinthians 15. The meaning of subjection in all its forms comes out plainly as Paul intended. After all he used the same Greek word throughout. Such repetition means that we should pay attention:
“Yet each in his own class: the Firstfruit, Christ; thereupon those who are Christ’s in His presence; thereafter the consummation, whenever He may be giving up the kingdom to His God and Father, whenever He should be nullifying all sovereignty and all authority and [all] power. for he must be reigning until He should be placing all his enemies under His feet. The last enemy is being abolished:the death state. For He subjects all under His feet. Now whenever he may be saying that all is subject, it is evident that it is outside of Him (God) Who subjects all to Him. Now, whenever all may be subjected to Him, then the Son Himself shall be subjected to Him (God) Who subjects all to Him, that God may be All in all.”
• 1 Corinthians 15:23–28
The verb is “to subject,” the middle voice is “be subject,” and the passive is “be subjected.” It is used in the following verses by Paul:
Romans 8:7, 20, 10:3, 13:1, 5,
1 Corinthians 14:32, 34, 15:27f, 16:16
Ephesians 1:22, 5:21f, 24
Philippians 3:21
Colossians 3:18
Titus 2:5, 9, 3:1
Hebrews 2:5, 8, 12:9
The noun, “subjection” is used by Paul in these verses:
2 Corinthians. 9:13
Galatians 2:5
1 Timothy 2:11, 3:4
The verb form is used by Luke, James and Peter. Read them all, in context:
Luke 2:51, 10:17, 20
James 4:7
1 Peter 2:13, 18, 3:1, 5, 22 (given above), 5:5 (used twice)
Investigating the various nuances of “subjection,” “subjecting,” and “subject,” will greatly enlighten your understanding of what God requires regarding who you, as a Child of God should be subject to, when you should be subject, and how you should be subject. You will look at life differently, and perhaps your expectations in life will be easier if you understand the contexts in which these responsibilities of being subject are presented. Allow me to set out this passage to emphasize major points:
“Yet each in his own order: ”EL”-God’s order”.
[1] the Firstfruit, Christ;
[2] thereupon those who are Christ’s in His presence;
[3] thereafter the consummation of the “eons” time shall be no more! “The past present and future will all be one! As it is to “EL”-God!
whenever He may be giving up the kingdom to His God and Father,
whenever He should be nullifying all sovereignty and all authority and
[all] power.
For he must be reigning until He should be placing all his enemies under His feet. The last enemy is being abolished: death.
For He SUBJECTS all under His feet.

Now whenever he may be saying that all is SUBJECT,
it is evident that it is outside of Him
Who SUBJECTS all to Him.
Now, whenever all may be SUBJECTED to Him,
then the Son Himself shall be SUBJECTED to Him
Who SUBJECTS all to Him,
that God may be All in all.”
• 1 Corinthians 15:23–28
Understanding this passage properly will help you go to more sophisticated concepts of subjection, such as that in Ephesians 5:21–24 and you can understand what Paul means regarding mutual subjection in the context of marriage and the ecclesia of God. Even now we are instructed to be properly subject to “higher powers” or superior authorities (Romans 13:1–5).

The passage that Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 15 (and this is the glory of God’s Word throughout most of the Bible) used simple words to explain sophisticated concepts. He did not use nuanced theological terms, but rather they are everyday words. Paul did this because his audiences are not composed of philosophers but rather were ordinary people.

Unfortunately people often made Paul’s meanings more difficult than they should be. While some matters Paul deals with are hard to understand, particularly in Ephesians, Colossians, Philippians and Hebrews, this is often because people read into the text what Paul never intended, as said: by some,
“Even as God’s choice instrument the beloved Apostle Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him has written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest [twist], as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.”
• 2 Peter 3:15–16
The subjection of all to God the Father through His C.E.O. Christ Jesus will occur in the proper sequence of time. You will be part of that subjection. It will be voluntary, not forced. You will rejoice in it. All His creatures heavenly, celestial and earthly — together — will participate when God becomes “All in all.”

PS. Christ took the sin of the world on His head and bore it (Sin) away “there is no sin being taken into account now, those in Christ are free from sin, Its, called Justification, “Now there is no condemnation to those in Christ Jesus! We have no sins, Christ took them all away period… Finished….period…period…. It’s called Freedom in Christ! It truly is unbelievable why do you think no-one believes it, It is beyond the puny mind of man. His mind just cannot accept the illogical!
Permalink 06/09/06 @ 15:29
Comment from: Trent [Member] ·
Sumner Koch,

Interesting ... but probably not really a comment to that blog.
I invite you to discourse with me about anything that is written.
Please refrain from nonsequitors that ignore the blog to which they respond.

As each blog is written personally by Pam, me or Bud ... please write personal responses, and not cut and paste something from somewhere else.
We want to hear what YOU say, and what YOU think about Jesus.
I mean no disrespect. In fact, I would be honored to hear what is on you heart at any time ... so email me at this address ( directly if it really has nothing to do with a blog at It if has to do with a blog ... then respond at

Permalink 06/12/06 @ 22:34
Comment from: Pam [Member]
Hey Trent,

This is my fault and I am afraid I am the one that overstepped my bounds, not Sumner. I very much enjoy what he has to say and I'm afraid I verbatim told him to post as long of posts as he likes...

Sumner is a very polite gentleman and would not write as he has written without an invitation and that invitation was by me.

This isn't my blog, Sumner. I only write articles here because Trent has invited me to. I am sorry if I caused a misunderstanding.

Permalink 06/12/06 @ 23:14
Comment from: Len [Visitor]
uh oh: another "Holy Ghost
machine gun-kelly" strikes
again ! Kinda reminds me a bit of "the invasion of the delphi-demons." ... but we won't go there... :^) lol.
Anyways, I love your posts and gracehead site, Trent, Pam. It's always thoughtful and worth reading carefully.
Keep up the good work.

Shalom and God bless !
Len Hummel
Clearlight Christian Ministries

* Jeremiah 9:23-26 *
* Philippians 1:6, & 9-11 *
Permalink 06/17/06 @ 04:21
Comment from: Len [Visitor]
btw, Trent, you might want to
look into the fact that there is a fairly regular "glitch" on your site here: nearly everytime I try to post a comment lately the message is rejected "because I have entered the wrong code number." (which is definitely NOT the case). So somehow the system is rejecting comments for no good reason.
Permalink 06/17/06 @ 04:23

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