Post details: Powerless to cancel God's love ....


Permalink 03:26:11 am, Categories: GraceHead teaching, By Trent, 688 words   English (US)

Powerless to cancel God's love ....

A couple of years ago, I was watching "Pirates of the Caribbean" at the theater, when the Spirit awakened me during one scene in particular.

A young girl was being forced to walk the plank off a pirate ship, and the captain of the pirate ship put things to a halt: "Wait, we can't just throw away something so beautiful!" He blurted, and for a moment the whole ship was silent. A glimpse of the young maiden's expression revealed a glimmer of hope, as-if there was a chance that she was too beautiful to be killed by the pirates. Then the captain continued and dealt an abusive blow to her ego, and dashed away any glimmer of hope that she might have: "I'll be requiring that dress before you die."

The ship erupted in laugher.

What the captain was saying was that the dress was more valuable then the girl. On the scale of importance a garment meant more to the pirate then her soul ... so lets keep the dress, but get rid of the person wearing it ..

Pretty low blow. I can't think of a worse insult.

But, this is the exact duplication of what happened at the death of the Lord Jesus:

John 19:23-24 (NIV)
[[[23When the soldiers crucified Jesus, they took his clothes, dividing them into four shares, one for each of them, with the undergarment remaining. This garment was seamless, woven in one piece from top to bottom. 24"Let's not tear it," they said to one another. "Let's decide by lot who will get it." ]]]

In other words, they were saying that this Person ... this "King of the Jews" ... has no value, but His garments have value. The man had less value in their eyes then one outfit, and they mocking let it be known so that the Lord could hear their evaluation of Him - as worthless.

Now, that is a pretty low blow!

But, what is interesting is the Lord Jesus' remarks about the insulting guards that were drawing lots for his cloak:

Luke 23:34 (NIV)
[[[Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." And they divided up his clothes by casting lots.]]]

You see, the more they sinned against Him, the more it revealed about His love ... they could not out-sin His love.

You see, God is inseparable from His love, for it is written: "God IS love!"

If it said that 'God HAS love,' then He could run out of love and still be God. But it says that 'God IS love,' which means that for Him to fall short of Love is for Him to fall short of being God. This is impossible.

Romans 8:37-39 (NIV)
[[[37No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38For I am convinced that neither DEATH nor LIFE, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.]]]

"Neither DEATH nor LIFE."
"nor any powers."

That is what it says.
"neither angels nor demons."

When you can figure out something that you are capable that does not fall under the category of "death" nor "life," then you can have something to be worried about ... for only that which isn't part of death nor life can "cancel God's love."

Guess what? You cannot cancel God's love, because everything that you do is either part of death, or part of life and both death and life are powerless to cancel God's love.

In short, God is so forgiving that even the deepest abuse and senseless slaughter of His own Son, does nothing but pour out more and more forgiveness from Him. His forgiveness is like a gushing well, that has no bound, becoming even a river of unmeasurable width and the deepest depth .. flowing continually and for all time ... ever-increasing as it flows.

You are just going to have to rest in that.

Here is exactly how to rest ... say "thank you."

It is that easy.

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Comment from: Pam [Visitor] ·
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Permalink 01/05/09 @ 15:21
Comment from: Trent [Member] ·

This is what hit my Spirit to say to you today.
If we were talking on the phone, I would ask you about the experiences that were triggered. What did it feel like? In what way did it make you feel worthless? How often do you replay it in your mind? etc. etc.
We all have at least a couple of experiences that have deeply scarred us, and we reply them over and over in our minds ... and my goal in these questions would be for you to bring this past experience to a fresh new one in your current mind, as if you could taste the aroma of the air when it happened and hear the background noise while the event occurred. Then, if you achieve the full experience of deep remembering, I would simply say this as you are in that moment: "Shh, now Pam, I want you to listen, because Jesus is right there with you while you are going through that past event ... and He has something that He has been dying to tell you about it."

If you can go there in your mind, by recall ... and let that happen ... He really does have something that He wants to tell you about the event(s). He will speak it loud and clear and you might as well have a pen handy to write it down ... but first exercise your memory and emotions to the full scope that you can recall of the event(s.) Then listen.

What He speaks to you is yours.

Permalink 01/05/09 @ 19:38
Comment from: lenbenhear [Member] ·
Good answer, Trent. Let me just add this one little addendum to that:

We must allow for some real boundaries in our lives with certain people who mean us harm (spiritually, emotionally, physically, or otherwise). With abusive people: we must know where to "draw the line" and then let it go TO GOD to deal with them in His own way and time. ... I myself have learned over many years how to properly balance silence and "drawing the line." I'm not saying I have it down perfect: but I've learned a lot about that balance, and (ultimately) I have found that it must come from prayer and hearing from GOD.
Permalink 01/06/09 @ 00:25
Comment from: Pam [Visitor] ·
God gave me this scripture this morning and I think it fits perfectly here as well as adressing my own problems.

Isaiah 50:4-9

"The Lord GOD has fiven Me
The tongue of the learned,
That I should know how to speak
A word in season to him who is weary.
He awakens Me morning by morning,
He awakens My ear
To hear as the learned.
The Lord GOD has opened My ear;
And I was not rebellious,
Nor did I turn away.
I gave my back to those who struck Me,
And My cheeks to those who plucked out the beard;
I did not hide my face from shame and spitting.

"For the Lord GOD will help Me;
Therefore I will not be disgraced;
Therefore I have set My face like a flint,
And I know that I will not be ashamed.
He is near who justifies Me;
Who will contend with Me?
Let us stand together.
Who is my adversary?
Let him come near Me.
Surely the Lord GOD will help Me;
Who is he who will condemn Me?
Indeed they will grow old like a garment;
The moth will eat them up.
Permalink 01/06/09 @ 13:36

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