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The church needs more New Testament miracles

by Trent - originally posted August 25, 2005

Don't you think that the church needs more New Testament miracles? I do. If the world could see more New Testament miracles in the church then it would be more difficult for them to blow-off the Gospel, right?

So, what am I talking about when I say miracles? Would walking on water turn a few heads? How about some people raised from the dead?

Actually, that is not what I am talking about at all. Those might be interesting and sensational to watch, but next to the miracles that I am thinking of ... walking on water and raising the dead are a piece of cake. I am talking about when a husband walks across the room to thenun temper wife that just cut him down, and rather then replying "in-kind," he kisses her instead ... his natural instinct would prefer drowning then do that! So, don't over-value walking on water.

I am talking about a wife that meets her husband in the morning with breakfast in bed after a painful betrayal ... in the natural she would sooner drop dead then do that! So, lets not talk about raising the dead.

When the rod given to Moses turned into a snake, the magicians in the court had no problem duplicating the same stunt. But when it comes to someone returning good for the evil that happened to them ... nobody will duplicate that before they are transformed by the true and living God. Those are miracles that defy explanation except to say that God has made a difference in their life.

Don't expect the church to turn any heads, unless Christ has impacted our hearts to the point that we are willing to turn the other cheek.

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Comment from: Wesley "The Mighty Pup" [Visitor] ·
That was eggselent Trent! So true, the greatest miracle was when Jesus came to live through us and saved us from our sin.
Permalink 09/23/05 @ 08:06
Comment from: Timothy [Member] ·
This truth, my wife and I know and have received from Christ and His Word...but oh how blessed we are when we put it into practice.

Thanks Bro for the post and reminder to walk as Jesus walked always remembering these verses and this truth below.

1 Corinthians 13:4-7
4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

Galatians 5:22-26
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. 24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

Thus says the Lord God:
"Of these great things in the earth and in the sea, which is the greater? The turning of the sea upon the land or the turning of men's hearts from the dark to the light?...For all creation obeys the voice of the Most High...from the rock, to the ant, to the animals in the fields, to the water of the sea and the winds of the heavens. But to the hearts of men, oh how they remain set of stone and unyielding to the call of God. All that which is made of stone shall be broken and crumble under the weight of the Chief Cornerstone. All that is laid upon the Cornerstone shall also be broken, then made new liken unto a gemstone. Grieve not for those that will not yield, for the Lord shall move earth and sea, and shake all from its place, in the hopes that all will see and turn to the Lord...for a heart made new in the Lord is the greatest sign of all, for all things on the earth and the sea are given over to the Lord, save man. To him have I given the will to choose. What is life without love, and where is love without the free will to choose love, for a gift commanded is no gift at all...a gift accepted is where you shall find life, love and salvation." ~ (Vol. 1 - "Behold the Signs of the Coming of the Son of Man / The Time Has Come For All Things to Be Broken Atop and Beneath the Rock")

Permalink 03/11/08 @ 12:21
Comment from: Dad [Visitor]

Of your own writings you have said, "by no means does God want anyone to discard even one word in them." Continuing you equate them with the Bible when you said, "... the same with the Bible(except for that mistranslated by men)."

This seems a to be a firm position that you have taken repeatedly and consistently. It appears to be a cornerstone of your belief structure ... "rock hard" and unchangeable. What you have written can not be changed.

Yet your own words also say, "All that which is made of stone shall be broken and crumble under the weight of the Chief Cornerstone." In your words again, "You bear false witness against your own self. You say, 'I know the Word. I have no need for correction or guidance.' Woe,______ ...I say, woe. You have become divided against yourself."
Permalink 03/11/08 @ 12:49
Comment from: Timothy [Member] ·
Mr. Fuller,

You are in error, because of your unbelief and lack of understanding.

I do not stand divided against myself as you say, because those words you quoted as being from me are NOT mine at all...
The Lord spoke those words, not I. Plus you have taken them out of context, not understanding what the Lord Himself was saying.

Here is the context: "...the hearts of men, oh how they remain set of stone and unyielding to the call of God. All that which is made of stone(hard-hearted) shall be broken and crumble under the weight of the Chief Cornerstone." ~ God speaking.

And here the Lord was speaking to one as yourself; He was not addressing me in this Letter... so just fill in the blank with your own name and gain understanding: "You bear false witness against your own self. You say, 'I know the Word. I have no need for correction or guidance.' Woe,______ ...I say, woe. You have become divided against yourself." ~ Jesus speaking. (context)

Therefore, you do greatly err.

Thus has the Lord spoken to me...
God speaking:
"[Timothy], how shall you teach the blind? What words will the deaf hear? Can you heal the tongues of the dumb?...I shall teach them My words, so they may sing with a new voice. And if they will forbear, and not give heed to My teaching, nor listen to My words or speak rightly, shall I not punish them?

Thus says the Lord:
What of this wicked generation, who speaks against My prophets and hisses at them in secret? Behold, I have put My words in the mouths of My witnesses. Woe to any man or woman, who seeks them ill will. I have put MY words in their mouths. Shall you, then, blaspheme your God in your forsaking of them? Have understanding and look past your selfish desires...It is I who speaks to you! You would not hear, so I have sent to you the prophets, to give you understanding and guidance, so I may bless you...yet you stab at Me, by assaulting them, stoning them..."

And again. Thus says the Lord:

"So then, I have taken from you one of My candlesticks, for you will not give heed to his words, though they are not his own, nor will you harken. Neither have you danced to the sweet music he has played for you...I have put My words in his mouth. Behold, I have given him understanding of that which he did not possess, yet you stone him with the words of your mouth, turning your backs on him, and do hiss at him in secret. Therefore, you are forsaken."

And again, says the Lord:
"11/12/06 - From Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ - A Letter Given to Timothy, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear

"Timothy, write as I speak, and hear and understand the Lord’s purpose. I have sent you out among My sheep, as a shepherd who has no experience nor knowledge of My flock. Yet from your birth, yea, before your formation, you were ordained as a beacon and a light, a prophet and an enemy to men. I have called you out as an empty vessel of dishonor, of which I have cleansed and filled unto great honor, a man who shall be greatly hated of men and the world. Even men of My own fold shall come to hate you and cast stones at you. I have called you out of the world, and I send you back into the world...even among My own church shall I send you. Lo, you are of My body, but separate from that which is called My body by men. Behold, Timothy, I have sent you out amongst wolves and sheep, of which both shall bite at you and wish to trample you."

And again, said the Lord:
5/12/04 -
[God] Timothy, listen as I speak. The time draws near when you must speak to those around you My word, the Word ' of God. You shall bring many to Christ. Many will also come against you and stone you with the words of their mouths.

I will continue in prayer for you, as you do not yet understand with Whom you contend.
Permalink 03/11/08 @ 14:07
Comment from: Dad [Visitor]

Rest assured that I know exactly who spoke those words and what the context of them was. And I quoted them just as I intended. What I have said, I feel no need to retract. Especially when I see the anger and condemnation in your response.

I am also am well aware of God's call and truths and have since a boy given my life to Christ. I did not need your writings to understand God then. I do not need them now.

Time will tell whether your prophesies are true. I do not condemn you. You condemn yourself with your own words and are condemned by the true word of God ... the Bible.

Like you there have been many men that have written what they claimed is the word of God. Joseph Smith for example wrote the Book of Morman and made a very similar claim as your's.

He claimed his book to be equal in authority to the Bible and to be in agreement except where the Bible was mistranslated. It was presented to his followers as a new revelation and prophecy spoken by God like your books are presented.

Those writings and claims have proven to be false and in error. Like you, Smith claimed to have a special calling and to be speaking God's word. And like you that was not confirmed by any independant or objective authority and in time, God has revealed the error to many.

Anyone can say anything and claim it is from God. But none have stood the test of time and no such writings have been brought into the Cannon of the Bible. I trust your writings will find the same fate.

Titus 1 warns us of people that would deceive believers with many words.

10 For there are many rebellious people, mere talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision group. 11 They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach — and that for the sake of dishonest gain. 12 Even one of their own prophets has said, "Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons." 13 This testimony is true. Therefore, rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith 14 and will pay no attention to Jewish myths or to the commands of those who reject the truth. 15 To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted. 16 They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good.

Similarly 2 Timothy 3 warns --

1 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them.
6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak-willed women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7 always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth. 8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these men oppose the truth—men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. 9 But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.

If these words do not apply to you, it will be come clear. God has the power to build his church and none shall prevail against it. I trust His power to defeat any evil that false prophets can produce.

I can trust Him to correct you if you are indeed His child. If you are not His, your efforts will be fruitless and empty, just as those of Judas.

Abiding and waiting for His truth to be made known,


Permalink 03/11/08 @ 17:14
Comment from: Pam [Visitor]

I don't hate you and anything that I would say to others not in your presense, I would also say to you. I don't find you to be a man above needing correction and I still don't understand why since Jesus lives in my heart and is my Great High Priest interceding between me and God and through Whom I have personal and unbroken communication with God why I should have need for another human being to stand between me and God giving me God's direction when I have the very Holy Spirit living in me. God blesses me through the teachings and writings of other Christians but they are just like me. You claim to be something different and yet, you've not given me a clear or direct answer to this.

All of us Timothy have been given a written record of God's Word and we are held accountable for how we use it in regard to others. I think the same applies to you that applies to me.

Permalink 03/11/08 @ 17:17
Comment from: Dad [Visitor]

Again you have spoken well.

Anyone who seeks to bring believers back to obedience of the law is rebelling against the idea complete dependence on God and His provision of forgiveness through the sacrifice of Christ, the perfect lamb of God.

They are like the "circumcision group" who Titus rebuked because they sought to return to the law and insist on circumcision. Like them, law heads seek to add personal effort and actions to the sufficiency of Christ. They want to control themselves and others by insisting on rituals, days and religious efforts that are required by the law. They expect to see obedience to the Mosaic law as evidence of salvation. They condemn those that they consider to be without enough legalistic works and claim that their salvation is suspect or lacking.

While this may seem consistent with some scripture (like 1 John), it is inconsistent with other scriptures and thus is a false teaching. Such teachers are "having a form of godliness but denying its power." They refuse to accept and depend on the all important work of the believer ... believing.

We can rest assured that, as for so many others, "they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone."
2 Timothy 3: 5b commands us to "have nothing to do with them."

NOTHING is not very much. "They must be silenced because they are ruining whole households." They overlook their own logs while picking at specs in another's eye.

Divorce, condemnation, strife and rebelliousness toward parents become their hallmark. Although it is denied, one can easily see that such are "lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God."

It is not easy to depend on yourself and it creates all sorts of strife. But God will eventually bring true believers to the end of themselves. We are ultimately all in His hands ... and that is a good place to be.

Unable to do anything but abide,

Permalink 03/14/08 @ 19:00
Comment from: Trent [Member] ·
The LORD has spoken this word: ... """The earth is also polluted by its inhabitants, for they transgressed laws, violated statutes, broke the everlasting covenant."""

The Lord Jesus has said of the future: ... """Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."""
... having also said: ..."""Woe to the world because of its stumbling blocks! For it is inevitable that stumbling blocks come; but woe to that man through whom the stumbling block comes!"""
... having also said: ... """Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier provisions of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness; but these are the things you should have done without neglecting the others."""

Dad said: """Anyone who seeks to bring believers back to obedience of the law is rebelling against the idea complete dependence on God and His provision of forgiveness through the sacrifice of Christ, the perfect lamb of God."""

And so I ask you, Dad ... Is the Lord Jesus included in the word "anyone?"

Man does not live by bread alone, but by ***EVERY*** word that proceeds from the mouth of God.

Permalink 03/15/08 @ 14:34
Comment from: pam [Visitor]
Hi Dad,

I didn't see this reply to me until now.

I agree and have found little you have said that I don't agree with, matter of fact, I can think of nothing.:0)I wish you would have been around about 15 years ago and that I would have had the sense to listen to you. My life would be very different. Sadly, though I'm not sure I would have listened then and that is why God allowed me to go headlong on my own way, knowing I was so correct in MY doctrine and sure that the world would be changed by me and these new friends that appeared to me to be something but were really just very controlling religeous zelots. I did belong to Jesus and He has been faithful to me and when I reached the very painful end of myself, He took me out of this situation. Not to a chruch of MY choosing according to MY doctrine but to the church He originally put me in that I would never choose for myself and lo and behold, I am content and at peace.

We hope and pray for our children and we desire they not make the mistakes we've made and that they would receive from us all the good things of God that He has given us over a long life time but that isn't usually the way it goes. We have to let go and know that God loves them more than even we do and He knows best what is needed to form Christ in them. He is the Lord over all and in control even when our lives seem to be khaos. I will stand fast with you in the Liberty of Christ and pray even in the midst of great pain and many tears. Jesus will lose NONE of His own.

Permalink 03/17/08 @ 16:37

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