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You cannot unscramble an egg, nor can one loose salvation

Timothy added this: This Letter is regarding Salvation, might be a good discussion for Gracehead, if you haven't already discussed the question of if its possible for one in Christ to lose their Salvation.

Every word rings true to me ... see for yourself:

6/19/07 From Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ -
A Letter Given to Timothy, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear

Salvation is Given and Must Be Received...Once Received, Forever Shall It Belong to the Redeemed

Question asked by Timothy for a brother in Christ: Lord, can our salvation be lost?

Answer from Jesus Christ, Our Lord and Savior:
[Jesus] Timothy, write as I speak, and hear My word and give Me glory. For in My word is glory, even the truth, of which no man can change. For if any man changes that which I have spoken, to his own glory, or in the serving of the evil one, even that man shall I destroy.
So then, you have come before Me asking on your brother's behalf, though he asks in the testing of you, holding you up against his own belief and according to that doctrine of which he has already accepted. Yet I have spoken and will speak for the sake of your asking, and for the edification of him you call friend and brother. For he is My son also, though he does not yet believe that you are who you claim to be. And for this reason, I also have had you write My own word spoken, so for surety, he may know and understand that salvation gained is assured.
For it is not by gain that you have acquired it. Rather, it is by grace, the gift of the Father ransomed by the blood of the Son. So then, all those of which the Father has given Me, I shall not lose one. For all who come to Me, in no wise shall I cast out. Yet there are those among you, who say it is written by the prophet, that to those who are righteous who turn from their righteousness and do wickedly, even for this shall the Father remember their righteous deeds no more; and for their wickedness, they shall surely die. This saying is true and was spoken to His prophet of old time, according to the Old Covenant, and should be taken to heart. Yet understand this, you scholars and those without understanding, you lack faith and do not know your God, nor that covenant written in blood as an Everlasting and New Covenant. I died...behold, I am risen...and I live forever...amen. And so, also shall the righteous man live. Even if this same one turn and stumble, his salvation is in no wise lost to him. He has an Advocate with the Father, and One who stands for him, having already paid for his transgression. For lo, his sin is remembered no more and cast into a dark sea of forgetfulness.
Yet still, these, called by My own name, cry aloud, saying, "Lo, if a man turn from the Lord and commit wickedness, even this same man has lost his salvation and shall suffer in the fires of hell". Again, I say to you, you know neither Me, nor My Father who is in Heaven. For if you knew Him and had truly accepted Me and My word, then I would live in you. And because of this, you would understand God's mercy, which endures forever. I am that mercy, who lives forever to intercede on your behalf, even a high priest forever after the order of Melchisedec. So then, oh arrogant generation, who do call of themselves by My own name, you do greatly err. For in this truth is the kingdom built and eternal life established!...Salvation received in Me is forever, as I am forever and unchanging. For I have already told you, this is a cord that can not be broken, for it is made of the finest thread and strongest steel, and in no wise shall death prevail.
And by no means can one be cast into hell, to suffer day and night without end. This teaching is false and myth, borrowed from the deceiver, who upon all pagan religion was built. Sons of men, know you not what the Scriptures say, that whosoever, believes in the Son, abides eternally; and whosoever, has not the Son, shall perish and not see life. How, then, shall one say that whether one believes or believes not, both have eternal life? This teaching among the churches is of the church, called mother, and is of her father, the devil, of which she continually emulates, seeking after her own glory, which she claims she had received of Me...she shall be cut in pieces. And only those, who I see of Myself in them, fastened securely to their heart, in spite of their error, shall escape My fury when it comes...lo, it will come, for the Day is at hand.
The Day is coming, and is already here, when this world shall be judged. Lo, it has already come and is yet coming. And there are those among you, of whom I know and love, who say they love Me, yet do not obey My voice, nor will they listen. For they do adhere closely to the doctrines and traditions of men, even all of their holidays, which are perverse in My sight, taking that which is holy and making it unholy, even as a harlot perverting her ways among many lovers.
So then, behold the day, where all those who come to Me in truth, truly converted in their hearts, who obey My voice, they shall be taken. And to the rest, though they have called on My name in all supplications, even unto vain babblings, yet are not truly converted, neither will they harken to My voice, nor give heed to My commandments, for they do dishonor Me and pervert My name, even these, My children, I shall leave them in the midst of the earth in that day, a day of refinement, a day of tears, a day of heavy sorrows. I ask you, have these lost their salvation?...Had they truly received?...Do I live in them? All, who truly receive of Me, know Me, and I live in them. And if I live in them, then, in no wise will these turn away. For one, who abides in My love, shall never leave it. For they have tasted of the divine gift of My glory and will not turn, but rest securely at My right hand. These are My sheep, the tame of My flock. They call and I hear them, as I had called unto them and they did hear. All My sheep hear My voice, and do follow the sound of My voice wheresoever I lead them. Yet there are many in this flock that remain wild, but of them has My Father also given Me; and of these, I must also bring...they shall be tried, refined by fire unto pure white stones, of which all shall be given new names. They shall come to Me by great tribulation, and shall be made white in My own blood, bringing glory to My name, even the name of the Father who is in Heaven, because of the name He gave Me...

And they shall all become one flock with one Shepherd.
I shall be their God, and they shall all be My people, says the Lord.

Salvation has come and shall in no wise depart from My people. For that which was corrupted is made new in Me, and will yet be fashioned of that which can not know corruption anymore. All who come to Me are saved, having been saved already; and all those, who say they know Me, and then turn away, never really knew Me, nor had they really come to Me, having spoken in vain. For by the heart is one judged, of which I know, for nothing is hidden before Me. I made you and know you, having always known you, and even all of those who will come to Me, I see you as you are and will be...with Me, where I am.
Salvation can not be lost, once given, for it is only given to those who will receive. And only by the power of My own Spirit can one truly know Me as I am, and come to the true belief that, indeed, I AM WHO I AM, calling Me, Lord. For those written in the Book, I hold in My right hand, were written there from the very foundation of the world, of which also I was slain. At no time was I not slain and died and risen...I AM, and life is, because of Me.
So then, that atoned for in My blood is far-reaching, even across all and death, time and space. For even those, before Me, were after Me, and knew the Father...who, knowing Him, knew and saw the time of My coming as from afar off, having already repented before the Father in His name, which is also My name, the name He gave Me...Emmanuel*.
Understand glory and the power of the cross, by which I have sprinkled all nations, all peoples, and all men. Only one's complete rejection of this Truth, in the hating of My name, keeps them from salvation and life, of which I offer them in rivers of living water, mixed with My own blood, having been poured out from My side, of which all must drink, even to the eating of My own body to gain life, life without end.

And so the day comes, and is already here, when all shall come to know God and the power of His Christ, and shall come and sit before My throne...some to My right hand and some to My left hand. Even so, amen. Let it be done, and let it come to pass even according to how it is and was written. Even by My own hand shall all things be fulfilled.

Come to Me, beloved.

Gather around,
and let Me heal you and sanctify you...your salvation is assured.

Even as many, of all who seek My face,
shall abide in My love and never leave it...eternal joy.

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Comment from: Trent [Member] ·
What I wrote Timothy:

By the Lord, you have written what is true and what resounds in the heart of all of His children, who are willing to call Him "Lord."
This is straight-forward, and concise, and truly divinely spoken. It is for His glory that all this is true, and for the Lord Jesus' name sake and that of the Father. The two are one.
We, who are among those to stand at the right hand of the Lord, have a heart fashioned such that it is willing to be humbled and those to the left have a heart that is unwilling ... nor can it be willing even through the extreme exposure to wrath in the time coming.

Nevertheless, the willing and the unwilling (seeds and tares) all bring glory to the Father ... one by receiving life and walking in the ways that glorify Him, and the other by denying Life and walking in 100% slavery to sin at all times.
For when God's wrath is revealed against wickedness do we not know more about God? Do we not see for ourselves what God is like, Himself, by that which is destroyed ... and likewise by that which remains? Is it all not about God and His name, whether one is a seed of the Kingdom, or a tare scattered amongst the seeds by the enemy?

That which is harvested is done so for the benefit of he who planted them, not merely for the sake of the seeds ... but the planter and the caretaker. And so, it is well for us to be grateful and utterly glad to be among the harvest, for our own sakes, and escaping the fire, that we had no ability of our own to escape. Yet, the greatest gratitude and pleasure is in the Father, for He planted us, and gave us life .. and fashioned us as willing servants, for the pleasure of the Son to find and give life and demonstrate that life in this realm. We bear fruit (not producing any of it,) and in such ... as God causes it to remain beyond the last day ... and that fruit enters the day that has no end ... it is part of eternity ... and even is eternity here and now. For God Himself has wrought all the good works in which we now walk.

Therefore, let all who are willing ... wake up each day and say "Lord, you are welcome in me today to life all day in this body of your servant." We present ourselves alive for Him to life and express His life through us. And each time, it is miraculous and it will remain after heavens and earth pass away ... as with each vessel (you and me) through which it came forth into this world.
Shine bright, His glory! We are His lamps, giving expression to God. He makes it possible to do the impossible ... that that is to be "godly" in all ways, and find ultimate fulfillment in doing so, and God being pleased to see that of Himself in us.

Ripening for God's harvest,
Permalink 06/25/07 @ 17:09
Comment from: Timothy [Member] ·
Hi everyone. Don't worry, I am not returning to teach or post right now. I am sent to other places. I do stop by when I have time to read new posts, however.

*But I must remind you all and Jason:

*Please* do NOT refer to this Letter above or any of the Letters that say "From God or From Jesus" as Timothy's message.


Those words are so far beyond my writing and thinking capabilities; nor is there any here that can write like that, even if they were professionals. I am unlearned, it is the Lord who teaches me and speaks to me. I do nothing of is ALL the Lord's doing and is very marvelous in our eyes.

Blessings in Christ's great love, to you all, and especially to you here, who are against me for sharing with you the Lord's message from His own mouth...

Remember if you contend with me because of the messages I have posted, it is not really me with whom you contend, it is with the Lord. And He shall surely give correction and discipline according to that which is in your heart.
I am commanded to pray, love, and forgive you and I have and will continue to do so.

The Lord be with you all and bless you abundantly in Christ,
Permalink 06/27/07 @ 11:08
Comment from: Len Hummel [Visitor] ·
Personally, I believe that Timothy, (as one called to the very difficult office of prophet) hears from the LORD very very clearly, ... and must pay a price for doing so and for FAITHFULLY declaring His Word.
None of what he declares as the word of GOD contradicts the written Word and *the whole COUNSEL* of that Word.
That does not mean that Timothy is infallible; it means that THE WORD [when received clearly] IS INFALLIBLE.
Permalink 06/28/07 @ 04:51
Comment from: Don De Mamiel [Visitor]
Hello. We are saved by grace- through faith,faith is not just believing.Faith is believing and acting upon what you believe, you are required to use your will.Its like love, God cant give you love, He cant give you salvation, without your will.Why cant God give you His love, because He is LOVE. God cant give you Himself-LOVE. He can give you grace,mercy,etc. But what He can do,and He does do,if by an act of your will,you invite Him to come into your life,and He does,and He then unites His spitit with your spirit,you are then one spirit with the Lord,and He has taken you out of satans kingdom and translated you into the kingdom of His Son.You have SALVATION,you have love Himself dwelling within you wanting to manifest Himself through you,wanting to express His very life through you to others.But He cant do it without your will,as the word says.We are to let the love of God to be shed abroard through our hearts.God dosent come in to control us,but to lead us He wants us to yield to his will His purpose is to conform us into the image of Christ.He will not stop us from using our will. As the word says,you can grieve the Holy Spirit,He can be blasphemed,you can refuse His teaching,it would have been better for some,not to have known the way of righteousness,do not neglect your salvation,if we sin willfully,there no longer remains a sacrifice for sin,you are not allowed to insult the spirit of grace,after you have done the will of God,you may receive the promises.There are many scriptures that teach this.It is true you have your salvation.As the word says.The God of peace will preserve you blamless at the coming of our lord Jesus Christ,He who calls you is faithful,who also WILL DO IT. But we must also understand that He needs your will to do it.As Jesus said. He that ENDURES TO THE END will be saved that is also true. Its not about one being right or wrong. There both true. I love Jesus donny.
Permalink 07/01/07 @ 02:33
Comment from: Pam [Member]
Hi Guys,

This is what God says to me, through His Word and by His Spirit that is continually active in me. All of God's work is eternal and all of man's work is temporal. Salvation is a work of God through His Son Christ Jesus; it is eternal and can't pass away. Those of us who experience Salvation in Christ in this life, were not saved that one might be lifted as good above another that is labeled as evil. We who are terribly unrighteous in our own way are lifted from the filth of our own works to the Way to do God's good work to the glory of God. That is truly what it means to be seated at the Father's right hand, it is to be chosen for the good works of God in His plan for fully restoring His creation to himself. To be seated at His left is to be chosen for the evil work that He chooses to allow as with His right and left hand, He works the evil and the good together for the good of those who are in Christ Jesus.

In Christ Jesus, by His suffering and death and raising again, all things have been reconciled to God. This is the true message of those who have been 'saved', we are ambassadors for Christ Jesus, given this message of peace between man and God. By this peace that is in the person of Jesus, death will be destroyed and no longer hold the visible creation in chains. Life is eternal and that which is eternal cannot be measured with a stick or by mathematic calculation but death who is the ruler of time will meet it's own end by the full measure of its own nature.

Christ is in all things, He is there before they are created and all things are held together by Him. Eternity is the true state and death the false state. With eternal eyes we see that all is reconciled to God and that reconciliation is eternal. It never began and it will never end, it simply is. I AM that I AM.

Wheat is purposed by God and so are the tares to the good of mankind and all of God's creation. There is nothing to fear in death or in our personal destruction. There is only room for holy reverence and divine joy in knowing that all belong to God to do with as He chooses and He chooses the good for all that He has created and loves. God's Mercy endures forever and His Mercy overcomes judgement.

The whole world is in His hands and the heavens too. We are very small in the scope of it all yet, He has chosen to allow us knowlege of Him. Knowledge of Him that we can't reach on our own but instead we receive faith as a gift planted in us by the Holy Spirit of God. This Spirit that moves us as the wind moves the trees. The invisible force behind all that lives and breathes, the true source of Life. All of our choices are as the choices of a toddler under the monitoring of a good parent. We choose but our choices remain under the firm and faithful direction of God. Everything is fine and as it should be and when Jesus is fully revealed, and every eye opened so that they may see, there will none who are able to withstand bending the knee and proclaiming Jesus as Lord and to do so is to receive life even though we pass through personal destruction and death. For those of us called out in Christ, we suffer personal destruction daily and we learn to die to our own desires and live according to the direction of God. Others face that same distruction later but the gates of 'hell' will not prevail against Christ and His church. We will storm the prison and set the captives free and all that is an enemy of Christ, the enemy of all things living that are held in Christ and reconciled to Him by His own blood, will in the dispensation of the fullness of times be revealed to man in their rightful place completely under the feet of Jesus. This the full revelation.

I see the judgement seat and I hear Jesus say, "You who are without sin, caste the first stone." On that day all mankind will understand fully the work that Jesus did upon the cross and all that was fashioned from dust and fell under the curse of death will be made eternal. Evil which bore death and that which is necessary to punish evil in the false hope of preventing death will exist no more. There will be no more teachings, no more doctrine but only Jesus in each and every man and woman and all things living will be continually directed by Him, by the choosing of the Heavenly Father.

I too, love Jesus.

Permalink 07/03/07 @ 15:19

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