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05/01/07

Permalink 09:15:50 am, Categories: GraceHead teaching, By Timothy, 1992 words   English (US)

Are there and were there prophets after Jesus’ ascension?

Question: Are there and were there prophets after Jesus’ ascension?

Answer: God has never stopped sending prophets to His people and to the church. God does not change...For I am the Lord, I change not. Therefore, ye sons of Jacob are not consumed” (Malachi 3:6).

In the New Testament, there were a few “true” prophets mentioned, also saying there would be prophets in the church. Jesus, Himself, said how we should receive prophets and how to discern between true and false prophets. (See “Discernment of True and False Prophets”). The Lord would not have taught us these things if there were no more true prophets to come. He, rather, would have said something like, “Trust not any prophet, for there are no more to come”.

But what ye went out for to see? A prophet? Yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet. For this is he, of whom it is written, behold, I send My messenger before thy face, which shall prepare the way before thee. (Matthew 11:9-10).
Likewise, is God sending His modern-day prophets before Christ’s return, to prepare the way before Him.

And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Aser. She was of a great age, and had lived with a husband seven years from her virginity. (Luke 2:36)

As we tarried there many days, there came down from Judea, a certain prophet, named Agabus. And when he was come unto us, he took Paul’s girdle, and bound his own hands and feet, and said, Thus saith the Holy Ghost (Spirit), So shall the Jews at Jerusalem bind the man that oweth this girdle, and shall deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles. (Acts 21:10-11)

And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healing, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. (1 Corinthians 12:28)

Despise not prophesyings. (1 Thessalonians 5:20)

He that receiveth you, receiveth Me, and he that receiveth Me receiveth Him that sent Me. He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a Prophet shall receive a prophet’s reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a Righteous Man shall receive a righteous man’s reward. (Matthew 10:40-41).

“Wherefore by their fruits, ye shall know them” (Matthew 7:20)...regarding true and false prophets.

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The apostles, themselves, were prophets, having prophesied many times. They were given all the gifts of the Spirit at various times.
Also, God has always sent out prophets before passing judgment against a certain people. His judgment now comes against the whole world. And what of the Lord’s coming? As we know God does not change, so then He will send a prophet(s), in the spirit of John the Baptist and Elijah, to prepare the way of Messiah’s coming...”The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make straight in the desert a highway for our God” (Isaiah 40:3)...and “He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias” (John 1:23).

He will not just send one, as was sent to the nation of Israel at Jesus’ first coming, but He will send 144,000 to announce Jesus’ coming to the world and to all those in His body, who wait anxiously for His appearing, who should be shouting from the rooftops! In addition to the 144,000, He is also sending two additional witnesses, or lampstands (Revelation 11:3-6).

The following is an excerpt from the Messianic prophecy Bible study, “Jesus...MORE Than a Man” on my website www.trumpetcallofgod.com. (*I strongly encourage all to read this Messianic prophecy Bible study and then ask yourselves how I put together over 200 OT Messianic prophecy verses with their matching NT fulfillment verses with NO schooling in the Bible, having never been to church, having never been told, nor taught these things by anyone, and the fact that I had not studied, nor completely read the Bible before I put it together...
It is the Lord's doing and to HIM be all the glory!)

OLD TESTAMENT PROPHECY:
The Forerunner Of The Coming Messiah Would Come In The Spirit And Power Of Elijah
Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.

[*Note: This verse has a double meaning. It refers to Jesus’ First Coming (Great), and His Return (Great and Dreadful). Its fulfillment will happen in three parts:
1. God sent John, the Baptist, in the spirit of Elijah before Jesus at His first coming.
2. Also will God send 144,000 witnesses (Revelation 7:4-8) in the spirit of Elijah before His Second Coming.
3. In addition, God will send [Elijah and Moses themselves]* who will be the two witnesses and lampstands in Revelation 11:3-6. *We know the two lampstands from Revelation are Elijah and Moses from Matthew 16:28-17:1-3, and by the miracles they perform in Revelation. These miracles are the same miracles they performed in the Old Testament.]

NEW TESTAMENT FULFILLMENT:
John, The Forerunner of Jesus Christ, Came In The Spirit And Power Of Elijah

Matthew 11:13-14 (13) For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. (14) And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.
Matthew 17:11-13 (11) And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. (12) But I say unto you, that Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. (13) Then the disciples understood that He spake unto them of John the Baptist.
Luke 1:17 (17) And he shall go before Him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

So then, am I a prophet of the Lord?...Yes, I hear His voice and write down His words and send them out to the people and the churches, to warn, exhort, correct, proclaim, encourage, announce, teach!...the blowing of the trumpet of God...also a separating of the wheat from the tares, and the chaff from the wheat, even unto a bundling of the wheat, and a sifting or trying of that wheat in preparation for the harvest. It shall be gathered and sheltered in the Master’s barn for one week in the Lord.
The wild wheat shall be left unto refinement and the tares who remain unrepentant shall be burned up. The wild wheat will become the refined wheat, and along with all “new” wheat shall they be a part of the second harvest **[martyrs (Revelation 6:9-11) and those taken through and then hidden for 3 1/2 years (Revelation 12:14), until the glorious appearing of our Lord].

**Note: The “Rapture” or “Gathering Up” starts with the first harvest and continues on through the Last Week (the second harvest), including all those who will be killed for their testimony.

And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the Word of God, and for the testimony which they held. And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, Oh Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them. And it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.(Revelation 6:9-11)

And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is
nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.(Revelation 12:14)

“God, who at sundry times and in diverse manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds” (Hebrews 1:1-2).

All that I do and speak is by Jesus. For apart from Him, I can do nothing (John 6:63).

If all things are done through Him, and by God’s Holy Spirit which is given through Christ, then it is by Christ’s authority and voice that I do now speak to you.

I do nothing of myself. All is the Lord’s doing, through Christ, in Christ and by Christ. Even the Word from God I write is still given to me through Christ...He is the “All in All” and lives in me, and it is His Spirit that comforts me and it is His voice that I hear and obey.

So then, most Christians understanding of Hebrews 1:1-2 is correct, but not complete. As these verses are continually fulfilled through me and all those who love Him; and also in the reading of His words in the Bible and the Letters...Jesus is the Word...”In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” (John 1:1).

All inspired posts are also from Him... To God be all the glory and to the Lamb! Amen.

Note: I speak by permission of that same Spirit in Christ, when I say all prophets of the Lord spoke as they were moved by the Spirit of God, and that Spirit by which they spoke was Christ.

Yet the Spirit coming to live in us was not yet given to the church of Christ’s body, but was given to the prophets of the Old Testament at various times, to fulfill God’s will....”For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man. But holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost” (2 Peter 1:21).

Question: Am I a teacher of prophecy as Hal Lindsey, or a prophet as in the Old Testament?

Answer: Both.

God, through Christ and the Spirit, has given me understanding...the “unsealing” of the books to teach prophecy.
God has also given me the gift of hearing His voice to write prophecy as those in the Old Testament.
Now is the culmination of all things...the “End of the Age” is here! The return of Christ is at hand!
So certain people, as God has chosen, who did not choose this for themselves by any means, will be given all the gifts of the Spirit so they can be all things to all people, according to God’s will and purpose. These are not to be envied in any way for they shall suffer many things for the Lord’s namesake, even that of great tribulation... not the Lord’s judgments, but tribulation in and of and by the world and the evil one, yet death will have no power over them, for they will be sealed in their foreheads with the name of God...”Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads” (Revelation 7:3).

I do not glorify myself in any way, but rather I have been made a servant of God, and even of all those who seek Him and turn to Him...all for the glory of God, to build up the name of His Son, Jesus Christ, the Lord, in the hope and purpose of the salvation of many....a great harvest for Him, who died for them and rose again, so those who ask may live with Him forever. Amen.

And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto Myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. (John 14:3)

I want you to be where I am. (John 17:24)

Come Lord Jesus! Amen.

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Comment from: Len Hummel [Visitor] · http://www.myspace.com/lenbenherehear
Anyone who thinks that GOD NO LONGER SPEAKS by the mouthpiece of an anointed and CALLED prophet, does not know how GOD operates to bring forth LIVING WORDS and LIVING WARNINGS to both His church AND the world ripe now for Judgement on every side.

THE FIVE-FOLD MINISTRY HAS **NOT** DISAPPEARED FROM THE EARTH. ... true enough: there is *a famine of hearing the Word of GOD,* ... but GOD has NOT abandoned His church OR speaking to the world thru anointed vessels that HE has called.

Beware of presuming to wrongfully JUDGE those GOD has called as prophets in a time of great and terrible apostasy: I say this to one and all: BEWARE of condemning His prophets.
Permalink 05/01/07 @ 10:20
Comment from: Len Hummel [Visitor] · http://www.myspace.com/lenbenherehear
Yes, Timothy, it certainly *is* answered very clearly.

I'll wait for Jason's answer and see if there is agreement.

Again: BEWARE of self-righteously condemning and wrongfully "judging" the servants and prophets of the Lord Jesus Christ. - This is an honest and sincere warning.
Permalink 05/02/07 @ 03:47
Comment from: Len Hummel [Visitor] · http://www.myspace.com/lenbenherehear
IMPORTANT NOTICE:

JESUS CHRIST DID *NOT* COME TO "FREE US" FROM LOVING OBEDIENCE TO HIS WORD, HIS RIGHTEOUS COMMANDMENTS, AND MORAL LAW.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is deceived and desires to make grace a license to sin and/or "do as they please."

Remember that.

TIMOTHY DOES *NOT* contradict Scripture.

I am waiting to see "the proof" that anyone has such that they can CONDEMN Timothy, tell him "to repent," that "he is a false prophet" or "a false teacher" and that he is NOT bringing forth a word from the Lord Jesus Christ.

KINDLY PRESENT YOUR PROOF, ... or retract your condemnations. GOD IS WATCHING WHAT YOU SAY AND DO in reference to HIS WORD and His servants.
Permalink 05/02/07 @ 16:22
Comment from: Timothy [Member] · http://www.TrumpetCallofGodOnline.com
Brother Len, you have spoken the truth and issued a just challenge. These proclaim that we should test the spirits, as 1 John 4:1 says, yet they will not do it. For if they would, they would see that which I have posted is indeed true and of God. And in this, they fear and hold on to transgression, for they do greatly fear that one should come and speak to them in the name of the Lord, saying, “Thus says the Lord!” This has come to pass and so they scoff, for they no longer have any excuse for their disobedience. Neither do they have any love at all in their hearts for God; neither does Jesus live there. For where the spirit of the world is, combined with pride and slothful arrogance, the Lord can not be...satan lives there, continually leading them astray, having already put his hook in their mouths and does lead them about wheresoever he wishes, causing them to speak lies...even two at one table, and by three they go into judgment. And so, I have separated myself from them (by deleting their comments) according to the apostle Paul’s teachings, which comes from the Lord. For I have also attempted to show them their error, with sound doctrine and Scripture, even the very words of the Lord Jesus Christ, even having another with me (you), and yet they still turn away. Instead they choose to embrace all the corrupt fruit of the evil one, shown by their pride, their foolish-talking, doting about questions and strifes over words, with envy, strife, railings, evil-surmisings, perverse disputings, corrupt minds, destitute of the Truth, seeking only glory for themselves which they count as spiritual gain, having no good conversation in Christ...He is not in them. The world and the corrupt doctrines of men have become their masters and they have become lords unto themselves. They have not recognized their true master and adversary...satan is the master of corruption. He is the adversary, who, indeed, disguises himself as a minister of light, speaking lies and pleasant things, even smooth words of deception, saying, ‘You are now free to disobey; there is no accountability, there is no such thing as sin. The Lord has changed, He no longer sends prophets. You don’t need them, for you alone are righteous. You know the mind of God...you are above reproach. The Lord is silent, neither does He watch or listen; neither will He give correction or discipline for those He loves. Do as you feel is right, for righteousness is in the eye of the beholder’...And for this, satan shall surely be brought down to everlasting punishment. And those, who would mock the Lord and those He has sent, who serve Him in His own name, they shall surely receive recompense in full for their error. They shall be left wanting, in sorrows and tears, abased for their haughtiness and blasphemies against God, unknowingly saying, by there foolish talking, that Christ, even Christ, the Holy One, is the author of sin and has cast away the Law of His own Father, which He upholds and has taught us to follow, even giving us the means by which we will do so. The Holy Law stands forever. And we obey it because Christ, Himself, lives in us, and because we love Him.
These smoking fire-brands shall be refined; they shall be brought very low. Yet the Lord will save them, in the midst of their sorrow, when they bow down and humble themselves, and call on His name in TRUTH with sincere remorse for all they have done against God and His servants, the prophets.


[God] It will surely happen, it shall surely come to pass, says the Lord. They shall glorify My name in the Day of Slaughter. They shall sing in the face of adversity, when troubles encompass them round about, says the Lord, Whose judgment stands and shall fill the earth in His fiery anger. Behold! The Lord, the Lord of Hosts, shall show the world, and even all in the isles, a new and terrible thing, even a wonder, an astonishment. I shall build a great city, lo, it shall be a city filled with singing and blood, crying and elation...yea, a great city of salvation, a city of harvest, even all the wild wheat shall be there...a city called Martyrdom! To my own glory, it shall be built. Yet in the Lord’s mercy, it shall not endure. For My glory, it shall continue for a very short season...lo, it shall be cut short for the elect’s sake. And all, who dwell there, shall sing the song of the Lord in that day. And those, who dwell there, shall live there only for an instant, a twinkling of an eye. And in that very same moment, they shall be gone from the earth and be given robes of white...even in My own House shall they receive them. They shall bow down, yea, they shall give worship and receive healing. And there, My children, even there in My bosom, you shall abide for a short season...and you shall never know death anymore, neither pain, nor crying, nor sorrows of any kind shall you remember anymore...only singing and praise in the presence of your Shepherd, your Redeemer, the Lord of Hosts is His name, the Holy One of Israel!


Behold, I have spoken it, says the Lord.
Lo, it shall be and it shall not tarry, for it comes quickly...
behold, it is at your doorstep.
Repent, My people, and give Me glory!
Christ Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life!
Do not just say you know Him, live in Him!...Yea, abide in Him.
Feed yourself, night and day, with His doctrine, My doctrine.

Listen to those I send...
you shall know them by their fruit and by their sword,
which I, Myself, have placed in their mouths.


Strike them down if you are able; kill My prophets if you have no fear of God in your hearts. Come against them in your false righteous anger...come, says the Lord...COME! You shall be cut to pieces! You shall be brought VERY low!... Abased in My hot anger, and lifted up because of My mercy.
And you, oh wicked, true concubines of satan, even you wicked vipers, who do shake your fists at Heaven and spit at the King, the Holy One, come and hiss at My chosen, the redeemed from among men, the firstfruits to My glory in Christ...you shall be brought down to hell, the grave. From dust had I formed you, you broken vessels of great dishonor, and to the dust shall you return. Thus is the eternal state of My punishment, thus is the punishment by My own hand: Destruction of the wicked in the lake that burns, consumed in an instant, gone from My presence for eternity. Darkness, outer darkness, nothingness is your reward, and you shall never even know you had received it or received it not. You shall know nothing, nor have ANY part in life. It is taken from you and shall never again be granted to you...your inheritance is lost. This, oh perverse generation, is the eternal state of My punishment and the eternal recompense for all My children, who have forsaken Me utterly in their willful adoption by satan, the evil shepherd of the goats made fat, fat for the slaughter...you are consumed. And he who bore you, even he called lucifer and satan, that wicked serpent, the dragon, he will receive equal for his evil deeds in the lake of eternal torment, reserved for him and his angels.

So turn, says the Lord...run quickly!
The time is at hand, the Great and Dreadful Day of the Lord is here!

Be hidden...not left and exposed.

Seek sanctuary in your Redeemer, Christ Jesus is His name,
Yeshua, the Resurrection and the Life, the Gift,
the Loving Mercy of God which endures forever...

oh Emmanuel.
Permalink 05/03/07 @ 00:15

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