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02/11/06
Theological myth - Caution not to commit blasphemy of the Holy Spirit
by Trent
Most people approach the topic of blasphemy of the Spirit as if it describes a specific action that one might commit by careless act or misdeed. However, blasphemy of the Spirit is not an action, it is a condition.
Everyone blasphemes the Spirit from the time that they are born until the time that they die ... UNLESS, there comes a time when they are enthusiastic or half-heartedly interested in salvation through the impartation of God's own Spirit within their innermost being. Alot of people call this ...
Its like a bowl of cake-mix that can't become anything other then a dry powder as long as it is separate from the milk. It is blaspheming the milk by staying apart from it. But if the bowl is receptive to the milk, then the milk is poured into the bowl and starts blending with the cake-mix. As the cake-mix and milk is stirred together, they are becoming something new, and they are becoming ONE.
Now if you look into the bowl, you don't see milk, nor cake-mix. Instead you see a new substance = CAKE BATTER!
Cake-mix can no longer blaspheme the milk, because it is one with the milk ... and in fact it is no longer cake-mix - it is CAKE BATTER. You can't reverse that. You cannot change it. You cannot separate milk from cake-mix once they are combined.
So, you spent a long portion of your life blaspheming the Holy Spirit, and it wasn't forgiveness that you needed (you were forgiven 2000 years ago of every other forgiveable sin.) You just needed to correct that one last unforgiveable error and let yourself be mixed with the Holy Spirit ... when you asked Him to come inside your life and change you into something new.
I don't care how sincere you were when you asked Him for this, because He heard you anyway, and has been running the mixer continually since. Like it or not, you can't go back. You are stuck as a non-blasphemer of the Holy Spirit, and there is nothing that you can do to change it ... not in life and not in death.
Look at this combining the Spirit of God and your innmost being as one might dunk (or BAPTIZE) tea into water changing the water into tea. For this infusion/union of a foriegn substance is as the potency of the Holy Spirit to make us Holy, even as He is Holy ...
Romans 6:3-7 (NIV)
3Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
5If we have been united with him like this in his death, we will certainly also be united with him in his resurrection. 6For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin— 7because anyone who has died has been freed from sin.
Freed from sin?
Is not the old man ... the cake-mix ... dead, once it becomes cake-batter? Isn't the water completely gone, once you have brewed the tea? And if it was sin to stay apart from that with which it was mingled ... then couldn't we say that it has been freed from sin, once it was mingled?
Our union with the Lord Jesus is so that we may live a new life ... "we too" ... "just as" Jesus!
United? Yes, UNITED, through baptism INTO the Lord Jesus!
This is the very basics of the gospel! Please tell me that it resonnates with you!
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Though I agree that we can't be seperated from the love of Christ, I've really have never been exactly sure what it means to blaspheme the Holy Spirit. This is one myth I've never heard either because I've never heard any teaching on blaspheming the Holy Spirit.
From the context in Luke, I always had kind of a vague idea that perhaps it meant that we shouldn't neglect what the Holy Spirit directs us to say. That to blaspheme the Holy Spirit is to knowingly go against Him.
What do you think?
Pam
02/12/06 @ 23:02
02/13/06 @ 07:01 I have found, based on the understanding that I presented in this blog, that blasphemy of the Spirit is mentioned in many different places.
In the verse that I discussed (Rom 6:7) "has been freed from sin" the "sin" that is mentioned as a singular sin ... is this very sin - blasphemy of the Spirit.
Likewise, Jesus mentions this SINGULAR sin once again before He ascends.
John 16:8When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment: 9in regard to sin, because men do not believe in me;
Furthermore, due to the timing that points to the fact that the act of propitiation had been completed it makes sense that the Holy Spirit would ONLY convict of the ONLY sin for which Jesus explained that there would not be any forgiveness - Blasphemy of the Spirit. All other sin would have been already forgiven by then. What else does the couselor have to convict the world of, but of unbelief in Him ... which is the blasphemy of which this blog was about?
Still ripening for the harvest,
Trent
02/13/06 @ 22:05 I understand what you are saying and I also believe that as a believer, my soul is kept by God. I also still have to place Luke 12:10, which speaks directly about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, back into the context of Luke 12: 8-12. It has to do with a believer denying Christ before men and not saying what He leads us to say and admonishing us to say what He leads us to say when we are brought before authorities. It would be unforgiveable for a believer to bail out on the job that Jesus has given us to do, that is to confess Him before others and glorify God.
I can't help but think of a certain phone call of yours that I listened in on and am struck by what you meant for mischief, God turned to His glory. You really had no choice in the matter as this was a good work that God had laid before you to accomplish. God's Soveriegnty in your life kept you from committing the unforgiveable sin of denying Christ. That would not have been possible without the power of the Holy Spirit within you.
It takes a lot of scraping and beating to mix a cake. We are all getting our lumps worked out but you are correct in that when the Holy Spirit has been added, there is no turning back to the dead, dry mixture.
Pam
02/14/06 @ 08:08 Jesus COULD be talking about something that a man does or says ... an act or an ommission of an act ... but He COULD (and probably IS) talking about the condition of a man ... and the "denying" is a symptom of the condition of a man's soul.
The reason that I say that Jesus probably IS refering to blasphemy as a condition of a soul, and NOT a solitary act that one might do ... is apparent in the parrellel record by Mark:
(Chapter 3:23)So Jesus called them and spoke to them in parables: "How can Satan drive out Satan? (24)If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. (25)If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. (26)And if Satan opposes himself and is divided, he cannot stand; his end has come. (27)In fact, no one can enter a strong man's house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man. Then he can rob his house. (28)I tell you the truth, all the sins and blasphemies of men will be forgiven them. (29)But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin."
Does "eternal sin" mean to you that it was a singular careless deed?
Clearly, the context points to the condition of a man's soul, even using a parable of the soul as a house that the Holy Spirit disposses from the devil, once Jesus had tied up the "strong man."
Or consider Matthew's text:
Matt 12:30"He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. 31And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven."
If Jesus was talking about only a deed that is done, then He would say, "when one scatters as opposed to scattering" ... instead Jesus says "He who scatters" ... showing that the problem is not in the scattering, but in the person that scatters. They are have not been dis-possessed of the "strong man."
... as the verse just beofre says: "(28)But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. (29)"Or again, how can anyone enter a strong man's house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? Then he can rob his house.""
Again, it appears the condition of the house/soul seems to be the clear issue, not any singular event when someone may or may not deny Jesus. Rather even when that interpretation is applied to Luke we are left with a soul that would not agree that Jesus is the Lord, verses a soul that would agree that Jesus is the Lord. What they say is symptomatic of the condition of their "house"/ soul.
Ripening still,
Trent
02/14/06 @ 12:27 I've been considering this today and I guess what I've come down to is that blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is a specific act symptomatic of the condition of unbelief. I think the Holy Spirit keeps us so that we are unable to blaspheme the Spirit as we are slaves to righteousness. Just as your phone call was turned to God's glory despite your personal intentions (I'm not picking on you, I promise). I think this differs from grieving the Holy Spirit which I believe Christians do by their careless actions every day.
Pam
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I hope these related entries fill in more gaps then they create.
Ripening,
Trent
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06/05/06 @ 17:44 From reading this article I get the idea that perhaps you dont fully understand the sin of Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
This article is related and in depth on the matter.
http://biblical-christianity.blogspot.com/2006/06/bible-on-blasphemy-of-holy_115001704073307512.html
06/19/06 @ 14:09 From reading this article I get the idea that perhaps you dont fully understand the sin of Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
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11/16/08 @ 20:51
11/16/08 @ 20:52 Hello.
Let me get the passage.
From Matt 12: "He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me scatters. 31 "Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 32 "Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come. 33 "Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for the tree is known by its fruit. 34 "You brood of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak what is good? For the mouth speaks out of that which fills the heart. 35 "The good man brings out of his good treasure what is good; and the evil man brings out of his evil treasure what is evil.
When I read this it is talking about more than a simple sin that someone can commit or avoid committing. I know that many people curse the Holy Spirit as it is a natural thing to do when they truly despise the Holy Spirit and are in league with lucifer. However, I am certain that there are alot more people that curse the Holy Spirit with words because they are put up to that by someone else as a rite of passage or a way to gain approval from a group that wants to oppress them.
When someone puts a gun to your head and tells you to do this or that (even curse the Holy Spirit) then when you do what they tell you to do, it is not a substantial revelation that you wanted to do that. You just wanted to get through the ordeal and survive the situation. So it was under-duress that you did it, not because you wanted to do it. And this is not what Jesus is talking about in Matt 12.
Read Matt 12 again and focus upon the fact that Jesus is talking about a blasphemy that has to do with an outward expression flowing naturally from a wicked heart. He isn't talking about someone responding to a threat or enticed with a reward for saying something against the Holy Spirit. No manipulation is found in the passage. Rather, """For the mouth speaks out of that which fills the heart."""
So, if you were scattering from Him instead of gathering to Him, and against the Lord instead of for Him, than it isn't forgiveness that you need. You need full conversion by sorrowful repentance and to ask for an receive the infilling of the Holy Spirit through new birth. Then your heart will be changed and begin to speak a new way by what now fills your heart by the Spirit. You would have changed and begun to express good fruit where there once was only bad fruit. You will have, in short, corrected your blasphemy of the Spirit ... and truly you are saved.
However, if one is truly wicked and opposed to God, they won't change. They will continue down the path of wickedness and never correct it. They won't have forgiveness nor will they care about such things ... they have already shown that they don't mind or care about salvation of the things of God, so they likely would not be asking the question that you asked me.
Ripening,
Trent
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